Ben Vickery, co-founder of Vickery Hyett, has 35 years of experience in the designing of sports venues and his experience has culminated in a great degree of knowledge of the standards and requirements for all sport building types. Charlie Jahnigen is a Vice President at SHP with broad experience in all facets of pre-planning, design, documentation and construction, specializing in work related to education and sustainable design. On this edition of This Is DesignIntelligence, they speak with Dave about the effect of COVID on the design of public gathering spaces and the balance between creating secure yet engaging environments.